Random YouTube shiz.

[mountainz]

[jlane]

that guy needs a punch in the face and a haircut.

[mountainz]

spoken like a true talent-less republican piece of shit.

[jlane]

spoken like a true talent-less republican piece of shit.

So angry. So delusional. Sad, but you are a great representation of the worst generation in American history. A pathetic choad smoker with little to no sense of reality. Enjoy poverty, avoiding mirrors, smelling like a bum, existential dread, and externalizing blame.

[toivo]

the marginalized and the generally disenchanted with capitalist fantasies will enjoy the rout of the republican party upcoming. not for any real good political reasons, but just for the enjoyment of the spectacle of it.

[mountainz]

spoken like a true talent-less republican piece of shit.

So angry. So delusional. Sad, but you are a great representation of the worst generation in American history. A pathetic choad smoker with little to no sense of reality. Enjoy poverty, avoiding mirrors, smelling like a bum, existential dread, and externalizing blame.

I agree. My generation is the worst. And your generation was tougher.

But that doesn't mean you're not an aged piece of shit frat boy.

[jlane]

But that doesn't mean you're not an aged piece of shit frat boy.

Someone say shit? Haiku coming up!
Ex-Republican
Once a frat boy, always one
aged and wizened shit

[stonefiend]

It's the "where's the beef" generation.

[mountainz]

[Cardboard_Dog]

the marginalized and the generally disenchanted with capitalist fantasies will enjoy the rout of the republican party upcoming. not for any real good political reasons, but just for the enjoyment of the spectacle of it.

Totally agree. There are people that still believe ideology is what is driving the Republican party, but that really only exists at its base. The Republican leaders themselves are no more loyal to their ideologies, than the Democrats are loyal to their anti-war stance .. which is to say not at all. There is so much money and vested/protected interests at play anymore, that most sane Republicans either jumped ship, or took a moral stance and were replaced by complete dipshits like Scott Walker and Bobby Jindal. Look at Maine's governor. Seriously?. Fucking seriously America? Republicans at this point will elect almost anyone who still claims to channel that sad and archaic ideology, no matter how stupid, no matter how absolutely ridiculous. This years election is going to be a Retard Rodeo and its going to be entertaining as HELL. Clinton winning the election would ruin the fun. Trump has to take it for the real shit show to begin, but it will be the most ridiculous, insane, and incomprehensible 4 yrs in America's political history. .. (Of course we say that but I'm guessing there were some pretty ridiculous candidates during the civil war era and the years following .. )

[Lox]

Ex-Republican

The most interesting part of this discussion. Socially liberal but fiscally conservative? Libertarian leaning but for some sensible regulations? Can't stand abortion bills and lack of an economic agenda other than TAX CUTZ OMG!!!11 ? Dislike the total disregard for science-driven decisionmaking?

I am super interested because I probably could have voted for a Republican post-Bush but the party jumped the shark bigtime. Care to elaborate?

[toivo]

Ex-Republican

The most interesting part of this discussion. Socially liberal but fiscally conservative? Libertarian leaning but for some sensible regulations? Can't stand abortion bills and lack of an economic agenda other than TAX CUTZ OMG!!!11 ? Dislike the total disregard for science-driven decisionmaking?

I am super interested because I probably could have voted for a Republican post-Bush but the party jumped the shark bigtime. Care to elaborate?

it is curious that the so-called age of post ideological, neo-liberal politics has taken on such rabidly nationalistic tropes, bringing people together by stoking fear and hatred of others. beyond supposed claims to economic efficiencies, the corporate elite has latched on to these kinds of divisions to mobilize people even where the people's interests have no direct, positive relation to corporate profits.

conservatism makes sense if it means the conservation of the kinds of ethics that make civil society possible, as in civility, courage, moderation, generosity and wisdom. it is common sense to keep good things from the past in order to make us stronger into the future.so one looks with cautious askance upon the novelties of the present, and knows that all of this too shall pass.

the last bush set the bar pretty low for prudence.

[mountainz]

if conservatives hate big gov and socialism so bad why are they so pro-military? isn't the military like the biggest, costliest socialist institution ever?

why aren't they pushing for fully-privatized military? u want terrorist dead, y u not just pay big corporation to do it? and then all the rational people not scarred of terrorism (because it's statistically so unlikely to kill u) just don't subscribe for murder company, inc protection.

that would be like a conservative idea i might get behind.

and also, if you're all about individual freedomz, y u not support legalized weed and other cool drugs, abortion, and all sorts of gayness.

i mean what's the point in having a philosophy if you can't even stick to it?

[toivo]

there is n o principled consistency in pandering and bragging. self--assured humble is the new proud. may the gods bless america...

[toivo]

rough hewing timbers for framing, canadian railroad tie style.

[mountainz]

[toivo]

let's do with masks on.

party time up here in Candada. civic holiday king weekend for the win.

[Cardboard_Dog]

if conservatives hate big gov and socialism so bad why are they so pro-military? isn't the military like the biggest, costliest socialist institution ever?

why aren't they pushing for fully-privatized military? u want terrorist dead, y u not just pay big corporation to do it? and then all the rational people not scarred of terrorism (because it's statistically so unlikely to kill u) just don't subscribe for murder company, inc protection.

that would be like a conservative idea i might get behind.

and also, if you're all about individual freedomz, y u not support legalized weed and other cool drugs, abortion, and all sorts of gayness.

i mean what's the point in having a philosophy if you can't even stick to it?

The original conservatives, the ones that helped draft the Constitution, were adamantly against the formation of a standing army/military. Among many other reasons, including the fiscal responsibility of something as titanic as a military, they believed, as they wrote in the second amendment, that an army could be used as a tool of oppression by the wrong leaders.

The way the military is now, it is mostly privatized. At least the most profitable parts. Especially the logistical aspect of transporting an insane amount of machinery, weaponry, food, fuel, and personnel. I.e. Halliburton, KBR, and International Oil Trading Co. So these companies, and weapons manufacturers, procure huge contracts, and sub out the bulk of the work. And most manufacturing jobs are done somewhere else. And tax dollars pick up the shit end like paying for those services, paying soldiers salaries, the massive expense of paying for weapons and military vehicles, and veterans benefits. Which usually end up getting cut because the bulk of the money allocated for the war went to profitable corporations, leaving not much for the people who fought in the war.

And the corporate/government business model is much the same. Corporations who do business on a National and global level, and are blessed by Repubs as "job creators" enjoy massive profits margins while tax payers pay for the aspects of their business that are associated with the government like taxes, effectively turning that tax burden into revenue. And the Republican party have basically built that business model. Guys like Greenspan being one of the architects. Its basically a giant scam. And as long as the US is following that business model, there will never be enough money for social programs. Ever.

And Im just writing what you probably already know, and what most people who read already know. And even though manufacturing during world war 2 brought us out of the depression and into an extremely stable economy, and the Iraq war bankrupt us, this new model will be the one that becomes the norm. Because its what makes America great.

[Cardboard_Dog]

[toivo]

ominous. thank you donuts.'